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 Post subject: Verses 12:4-6
PostPosted: 06 Jun 2009, 07:49 
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 Post subject: Re: Verses 12:4-6
PostPosted: 01 Feb 2010, 18:36 
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{12:4} [Of these stories mention] when Joseph said to his father, "O my father, indeed I have seen [in a dream] eleven stars and the sun and the moon; I saw them prostrating to me."

أبت is an endearment of "my father." I'd like to carry that semantic in the translation,
{12:4} [Of these stories mention] when Joseph said to his father, "O my dear father, verily, I have seen [in a dream] eleven planets and the sun and the moon; I saw them to me prostrating."

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{12:5} He said, "O my son, do not relate your vision to your brothers or they will contrive against you a plan. Indeed Satan, to man, is a manifest enemy.

Likewise, بني is an endearment of "my son". I suggest,
{12:5} He said, "O my dear son, do not relate your vision to your brothers or they will contrive against you a plot. Indeed Satan, to man, is a manifest enemy.

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 Post subject: Re: Verses 12:4-6
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Linguistic wrote:
أبت is an endearment of "my father." I'd like to carry that semantic in the translation,
{12:4} [Of these stories mention] when Joseph said to his father, "O my dear father, verily, I have seen [in a dream] eleven planets and the sun and the moon; I saw them to me prostrating."

I agree with the endearment in both cases. The only remark is why "mention" in the explanatory [Of these stories mention]? I would say [Of these stories is].

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 Post subject: Re: Verses 12:4-6
PostPosted: 05 Feb 2010, 17:39 
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I agree with the endearment in both cases. The only remark is why "mention" in the explanatory [Of these stories mention]? I would say [Of these stories is].

I concur,
{12:4} [Of these stories is] when Joseph said to his father, "O my dear father, verily, I have seen [in a dream] eleven planets and the sun and the moon; I saw them to me prostrating."

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