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 Post subject: Verses 12:61-62
PostPosted: 06 Jun 2009, 07:43 
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 Post subject: Re: Verses 12:61-62
PostPosted: 24 Mar 2010, 02:30 
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{12:61} They said, "We will attempt to dissuade his father from [keeping] him, and indeed, we will do [it]."

{12:62} And [Joseph] said to his servants, "Put their merchandise into their saddlebags so they might recognize it when they have gone back to their people that perhaps they will [again] return."

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{12:61} They said, "We will approach his father about him, and indeed we will do [that]."

{12:62} And [Joseph] said to his boys, "Put their merchandise into their saddlebags so they might recognize it when they have gone back to their people that perhaps they will return."

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 Post subject: Re: Verses 12:61-62
PostPosted: 24 Mar 2010, 06:02 
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Pragmatic wrote:
I suggest

{12:61} They said, "We will approach his father about him, and indeed we will do [that]."

I don't think that "approach" is a correct translation; it's too mild. The Arabic verb implies a maneuver.

Pragmatic wrote:
{12:62} And [Joseph] said to his boys, "Put their merchandise into their saddlebags so they might recognize it when they have gone back to their people that perhaps they will return."

This I like.

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 Post subject: Re: Verses 12:61-62
PostPosted: 27 Mar 2010, 16:13 
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Linguistic wrote:
I don't think that "approach" is a correct translation; it's too mild. The Arabic verb implies a maneuver.

Point well taken.

Pragmatic wrote:
{12:62} And [Joseph] said to his boys, "Put their merchandise into their saddlebags so they might recognize it when they have gone back to their people that perhaps they will return."

I realized I was inconsistent so here is a revised version:

{12:62} And [Joseph] said to his boys, "Put their merchandise into their saddlebags, so they may recognize it when they have gone back to their people, so they may return."

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