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 Post subject: Did 5:5, 9:1 or 9:5 abrogate 60:10?
PostPosted: 27 Aug 2010, 14:30 
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Al-Khazraji, in his book نفس الصباح في غريب القرآن وناسخه ومنسوخه, pages 710-711, says that the prohibition to keep marriage ties with disbelieving women in

was abrogated by the allowance to marry from people of the Book in

That is not abrogation, but exception. Additionally, the circumstances of revelation clearly speak of polytheist wives.

Qataada said that the command واسألوا ماأنفقتم (and ask for what you have spent, i.e., the dowry) in 60:11 was during armistice and then was abrogated by the sword verse and the Mecca triumphant return. He didn't explain. Does he mean that Muslims were no longer allowed to ask for their dowry back if their wives reverted to polytheism and fled?

See also this post in the topic "Did 9:5 abrogate 124 verses?"

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 Post subject: Who said what
PostPosted: 27 Aug 2010, 14:34 
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For:
Qataada (he said the abrogating is the sword verse),
An-Nahhaas, Makki (implied by Al-Khazraji),
Ibn Salaama (who said the abrogating is 9:1),
Al-Khazraji.

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 Post subject: Re: Did 5:5, 9:1 or 9:5 abrogate 60:10?
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Al-Khazraji, in his book نفس الصباح في غريب القرآن وناسخه ومنسوخه, pages 710-711, says that the prohibition to keep marriage ties with disbelieving women in 60:10 was abrogate by the allowance to marry from people of the Book in 5:5. That is not abrogation, but exception. Additionally, the circumstances of revelation clearly speak of polytheist wives.

OK, this one has merit because of the opening "This day" of 5:5, and because of the ambiguity about the classification of the people of the book after Islam was revealed versus polytheists, atheists, and other non-Muslims.

Your argument is correct. The circumstances of revelation and the context within 60:10 makes it clear that this applies to the Mecca polytheists at the time of the Prophet (PBUH). The exception argument is also valid, as the original rule is not annulled and we still cannot marry atheists for example. In addition, the fact that there is ambiguity gives the benefit of the doubt to the no-abrogation side of the argument.

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