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 Post subject: Re: Consequences of abrogation
PostPosted: 01 Apr 2010, 16:26 
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The famous verse recited in Istikhaara prayers,

clearly states that after God makes a decision about a matter that no believer has any option but to follow it! To claim that the decision has been abrogated is to attempt to circumvent the obligation to follow it.

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 Post subject: Re: Consequences of abrogation
PostPosted: 01 Apr 2010, 20:41 
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In the following verse, God warns against concealing any part of the Book:

It's been reported that at the time Uthmaan ibn Affaan, may God have been pleased with him, was putting together the bound volume (Al Mus-haf) of the Quran, that some have suggested to him to leave out 2:240 because they were under the impression it was abrogated! Uthmaan refused to leave out any verse. Thank God he was the one in charge at the time.

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 Post subject: Re: Consequences of abrogation
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In this verse,

God warns those who do different from what God has commanded that fitna may hit them. While the context of the verse is specific to etiquette with the Prophet, peace be upon him, the injunction is general. If one declares a ruling of a verse abrogated, they risk being hit by fitna. And isn't the abrogation doctrine in fact a pervasive fitna that Muslims lived with for centuries?

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 Post subject: Re: Consequences of abrogation
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In his book علم أصول الفقه, Professor Ahmed Ibrahim, rahimahullah, understood these verses,

to be a reprimand from God to all who "take a part of the Book and leave another part." That is what the abrogation doctrine is, isn't it?

I'd also add that the last verse, 15:94, makes it clear that what God has ordered has to be complied with without argument! A claim of abrogation is an argument which leads to non-compliance to God's orders, isn't it?

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 Post subject: Re: Consequences of abrogation
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Commenting on,

Imaam Ibn Al-Qayyim, may God bless his soul, wrote that there are five ways to abandon the Quran. One of the ways is "to abandon judging by it, and resorting to it as a judge when there are differences in the essence of the religion or other matters."

The abrogation doctrine comes dangerously close to that, because, in replacing one ruling with another without authority, it inevitably abandons the replaced ruling.

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 Post subject: Re: Consequences of abrogation
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One more evidence from the Quran, brought to my attention by A.H. Al-Areedh, author of فتح المنان في نسخ القرآن,

Indeed, claiming abrogation necessarily leads to leaving out some of what God has sent down to us, thus violating God's command in 7:3.

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 Post subject: Re: Consequences of abrogation
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In the introduction to his book فتح المنان في نسخ القرآن, Ali Hasan Al-Areedh writes this about the seriousness of abrogation claims,
"For it will judge some of God's verses abrogated and their rulings voided and some other abrogating. Consequently, what's lawful becomes unlawful and what's unlawful becomes lawful!"

Despite that alert which he brought up, he sadly made five abrogation claims in the same book.

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 Post subject: Re: Consequences of abrogation
PostPosted: 19 Apr 2010, 22:48 
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Linguistic wrote:
One more evidence from the Quran, brought to my attention by A.H. Al-Areedh, author of فتح المنان في نسخ القرآن,

Indeed, claiming abrogation necessarily leads to leaving out some of what God has sent down to us, thus violating God's command in 7:3.

The wording of this particular verse matches very closely what people do when a group decides that a Quranic verse is not to be followed (abrogated).

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 Post subject: Re: Consequences of abrogation
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God warns us against "coming near his limits" in

Thus, if God has specified a punishment for a crime or sin, it has to be carried out as specified, without argument or negotiation. A claim that the verse specifying the punishment has been abrogated, puts the claimant in danger of "crossing God's limits."

A good example of that is the claim that 24:2 abrogated 4:15-16. Ali Hasan Al-Areedh is one of those who agrees about this claim, even though he repeatedly says, and I translate, that "if there is an interpretation that makes it possible to comply with both verses then there is no cause for claiming abrogation". We've shown Al-Asfahaani's and Tantaawi's explanation of 4:15-16, a most compelling explanation, yet Al-Areedh quickly dismisses it because, and I translate, "No other scholar said it!"

What is the result? The suspension of the prescribed punishment from God for the sin of homosexuality. That action may qualify as "exceeding the limits of God" as in

A huge risk indeed.

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 Post subject: Re: Consequences of abrogation
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The type of abrogation called نسخ الحكم دون التلاوة (abrogation of ruling but not of recitation) has been particularly ridiculed by many authors. Dr. Az-Zalmi, in his book التبيان لرفع غموض النسخ في القرآن, page 61, offers an excellent consequence of such theory: He says it leads Muslims to say what they do not do! Something which is sternly forbidden by God, per

Husaam Al-Ghaali, in the introduction to his book بالحجة والبرهان لا نسخ في القرآن writes that many Muslims indeed recite the Quran, maybe even memorize it, without knowing what its words mean and decorate their shelves with it, kiss it and hold it close to their hearts, etc., but don't do what it instructs them to do.

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