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 Post subject: Re: Types of abrogation
PostPosted: 07 Oct 2017, 04:46 
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Linguistic wrote:
`Afaana, in his book الرأي الصواب في منسوخ الكتاب, pages 57-60, discusses the different types of abrogation which he agrees with, as follows:

  1. Verses which were abrogated, but we don't know by what!

    As an example, he cites a narration about the martyrs of the Ma`oona well (بئر معونة). The narration has been authenticated by both Al-Bukhaari and Muslim. It says that Muslims used to recite about those martyrs a verse that said "بلغوا عنا قومنا أنا لقينا ربنا فرضي عنا وأرضانا", which was later lifted. Translation: "Tell our folks for us that we met our Lord and He was happy with us and made us happy."

    Two problems:
    1. This narration is not attributed to the Prophet (PBUH), but to his fellow Anas ibn Maalik (RA),. Therefore, it's his view, not something the Prophet taught, or else he would've said so.
    2. Why would such a verse be abrogated? Has anything in it changed? Has God become unhappy with those martyrs later, God forbid? `Afaana doesn't bother to bring up that point.

I am grateful that this branch of abrogation is outside of our scope, namely the abrogation doctrine.

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 Post subject: Re: Types of abrogation
PostPosted: 12 Jun 2021, 16:02 
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Fatoohi, in his book "Abrogation in the Quran and Islamic Law", p.2, mentions the narration attributed to Umar (RA) in which he acknowledges the legal expertise of Ubayy (RA) regrading the Quran but says that he forgoes some of what Ubayy says because Ubayy told him that he will never abandon anything he heard from the Prophet (PBUH)". Fatoohi concludes from this narration that Ubayy was opposed to the notion of abrogation. Fatoohi adds later that Ubayy's statement proves that the written Quran (Mushaf) has all the verses of the Quran that were ever revealed, thus rejecting the notion of abrogation of recitation (نسخ التلاوة).

I for one agree with that conclusion, which is further confirmed by the narration told by Ibn Al-Zubair (RA) that he asked Uthmaan (RA) why write in the Mushaf verse 2:240, which Ibn Al-Zubair believed was abrogated, and Uthmaan replied, as Ubayy did, that he would not leave out anything he heard from the Prophet (PBUH).

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