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 Post subject: Verses 8:38-40
PostPosted: 06 Jun 2009, 08:50 
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 Post subject: Re: Verses 8:38-40
PostPosted: 28 Dec 2009, 04:24 
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{8:38} Say to those who have disbelieved [that] if they cease, what has previously occurred will be forgiven for them. But if they return [to hostility] - then the precedent of the former [rebellious] peoples has already taken place.

I like the translation "the precedent of the former peoples"! But the word سنة means a pattern. A consistent pattern. I also would like to conform the word order to the Arabic, since we can do that here without risk of ambiguity or bad prose,

{8:38} Say to those who have disbelieved [that] if they cease, they will be forgiven what has previously occurred. But if they return [to hostility] - then already has passed the prototype of the formers.

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{8:39} And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for God. And if they cease - then indeed, God is Seeing of what they do.

No need for transliteration here. "Fitnah" in this context means religious persecution. So, I suggest,
{8:39} And fight them until there is no persecution and [until] the religion, all of it, is for God. Then if they have ceased - then verily, God, of what they do, is Insightful.

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{8:40} But if they turn away - then know that God is your protector. Excellent is the protector, and Excellent is the helper.

The last sentence is an exclamation construct, so I suggest,
{8:40} But if they have turned away - then know that God is your protector. How excellent the protector, and how excellent the helper!

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