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Author:  Index [ 06 Jun 2009, 08:48 ]
Post subject:  Verses 8:52-54
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Suggested translation1,2:


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1This translation may have been updated from the original suggested translation as a result of the discussions that follow.
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Author:  Linguistic [ 05 Jan 2010, 00:16 ]
Post subject:  Re: Verses 8:52-54
Quote:
{8:52} [Theirs is] like the custom of the people of Pharaoh and of those before them. They disbelieved in the signs of God, so God seized them for their sins. Indeed, God is Powerful and severe in penalty.

آل means family, not people, so I suggest,
{8:52} [Theirs is] like the custom of the family of Pharaoh and those before them. They disbelieved in the signs of God, so God seized them for their sins. Indeed, God is Powerful and severe in punishment.

Quote:
{8:53} That is because God would not change a favor which He had bestowed upon a people until they change what is within themselves. And indeed, God is Hearing and Knowing.

The last sentence starts with أنَّ, not إنَّ, therefore, I suggest,
{8:53} That is because God would not change a favor which He had bestowed upon a folk until they change what is within themselves; and because God is Hearing and Knowing.

Quote:
{8:54} [Theirs is] like the custom of the people of Pharaoh and of those before them. They denied the signs of their Lord, so We destroyed them for their sins, and We drowned the people of Pharaoh. And all [of them] were wrongdoers.

Same comment about آل meaning family.
Author:  Linguistic [ 14 Apr 2021, 20:55 ]
Post subject:  Re: Verses 8:52-54
I think a better translation of آل in this segment should be "the house of" rather than "the family of", because Pharaoh's wife was a believer. Therefore, for this segment, I suggest,

{8:52} [Theirs is] like the custom of the house of Pharaoh and those before them. They disbelieved in the signs of God, so God seized them for their sins. Indeed, God is Strong and severe in punishment.

{8:53} That is because God would not change a favor which He had bestowed upon a folk until they change what is within themselves; and because God is All-Hearing and All-Knowing.

{8:54} [Theirs is] like the custom of the house of Pharaoh and of those before them. They denied the signs of their Lord, so We destroyed them for their sins, and We drowned the house of Pharaoh. And all [of them] were wrongdoers.
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